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Exploring Protty Cavern/Shikuraia Undersea Ruins/Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep)

Postby KAMIKADzE » Thu 2018.11.08, 05:29

Protty Cavern


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Official RequirementLvlAPDP
Minimum56-57150230
Recommended57-58170250

I'd probably recommend a bit higher AP (200+) to grind somewhat efficiently, that is, unless you're a Striker/Mystic/Witch/Wizard.

Trash loot drop 1800 - 6300 Silver per mob (no need to exchange, can be sold to shop). Mobs don't drop the actual silver itself.

Main droptable:
  • Ancient's Seal - Red Piece (35,795,454 Silver, can be combined with Black Piece into Tungrad Ring)
  • Rainbow Coral Ring
  • Shikuridu's Song
  • Trace of Wave (not a rare material from this day =D)
  • Essence of Abyss (it can be used to craft Light's Flask, stats of which you can find at the bottom of this post)
  • Ancient Spirit's Powder
  • Black Stones
  • Piece of Deep Sea (518,732 Silver, 5 pieces can be combined into Memories of Deep Sea, which is required to access Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep))

Location has NPC potion shop, repair, Gold bullion seller, Marni's Stones = you can grind that spot virtually forever, without the need to travel back. There is also an ongoing event till 2018.12.05, that allows you to trade main trash drop (Protty's Fin) for Undersea Ancient Coin, which is even better option than Gold bullion (price&weight-wise) and can also be exchanged for various items (Shakatu's Rare Box, Ring of Crescent Guardian, Fragments of Memories, Epheria Sailboat, Epheria Escort).
Droprate seems to be OK, I even managed to get Ancient's Seal - Red Piece within ~30 mins. This is basically an alternative to Kuite Pirates, that requires more AP, with useful rare drops, but possibly a bit lower pure silver income (if we count trade items, trash drop and silver), but with less hassle.
EXP-wise it's hard for me to compare, as both yield virtually nothing on my 62 lvl, and would require hours of polished rotations to properly judge the difference.
The place itself is relatively big and will be able to entertain quite a few players.
Additionally you can gather few underwater resources here, while being not underwater, like corals, but there aren't many of those.


Shikuraia Undersea Ruins


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Official RequirementLvlAPDP
Minimum60230260
Recommended61250280

Just take as much AP as you can at this point, but you should be OK with recommended stats.

Trash loot drop 4700 - 9400 Silver per mob (no need to exchange, can be sold to shop). Mobs don't drop the actual silver itself.

Main droptable:
  • Tungrad Ring (124,999,999 Silver)
  • Ancient's Seal - Black Piece (35,795,454 Silver, can be combined with Red Piece into Tungrad Ring)
  • Ancient Creature's Scale (11,931,817 Silver, 5 pieces can be combined into Ancient Creature's Shape, which in its turn can be used to summon weekly Summoned Boss - Shikuridu)
  • Shikuridu's Song
  • Various Yellow Black Magic Crystals
  • Capra's Stone
  • Essence of Abyss (it can be used to craft Light's Flask, stats of which you can find at the bottom of this post)
  • Ancient Spirit's Powder
  • Black Stones
  • Piece of Deep Sea (518,732 Silver, 5 pieces can be combined into Memories of Deep Sea, which is required to access Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep))

Location has NPC potion shop and repair, so unlike Protty Cavern - you can't grind that spot forever, without the need to travel back, unless you have a nice harem of Maids/Butlers. That said, for the duration of ongoing event, till 2018.12.05 - you actually can stay in this area, without the need to travel back, by trading trash drop (Broken Ancient Weapon Power Stone) for Undersea Ancient Coin, which is even better option than Gold bullion (price&weight-wise) and can also be exchanged for various items (Shakatu's Rare Box, Ring of Crescent Guardian, Fragments of Memories, Epheria Sailboat, Epheria Escort).
Droprate seems to be just terrible, to say the least - I haven't dropped anything, but the trash items in like almost an hour of grind...(haven't used any buffs for drop) Even though that the droptable is impressive, if it wasn't just my "luck" - this is basically a dead area for me with such rates. EXP isn't particularly exceptional either, would definitely require more AP for me in order to make it somewhat comparable to the existing areas. This is basically a less painful version of Histria/Akuman/Gaipilashya, mobs are noticeably weaker (I don't have any DMG/offensive buffs in the video above^, nor have I used even a single potion, but don't get me wrong - I advice at least some cheap offensive buffs to kill them faster).
This place will fit at most 3 solo players.
Additionally you can gather few underwater resources here, while being not underwater, like corals, seaweeds.

If the terrible droprate will persist - I'll probably move to Protty Cavern for the "Piece of Deep Sea" items farming. They can be bought from the Market, but obviously they're not there, and I expect this shortage to continue, at least until everyone who wants to check out Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep) will check it.

Farmed again for a bit more than an hour and it seems like either it was my "luck" or the latest update fixed something silently or it is the work of S rank knowledge on mobs =D (didn't manage to get the S rank for the last one yet). Obtained 2x"Piece of Deep Sea", 1 Black Stone (Armor), few Ancient Spirit's Powders, 4-5x"Essence of Abyss" and lots of trash. Either way - it's still not worth the effort, can't see myself grinding here for anything else than Tungrad Ring and/or Pieces of Deep Sea.

After few more hours of farm I managed to get 2x"Black Magic Crystal - Swiftness" and 1 more Piece of Deep Sea.
At this point I can make some conclusion of the average droprate - just terrible, like it felt from the start =D
Most of your drop here (without drop buffs) will be limited to the trash items, Essences of Abyss, Ancient Spirit's Powder.
My overall estimated income per hour is somewhere around 14kk Silver, out of which trash drop is around 12-13kk Silver. It wouldn't be bad if it would drop at least Ancient's Seal - Black Piece once in a while...so with better luck or if you have enough AP to 1shot everything there - it might actually be a viable farming place. EXP-wise it's definitely not good for me.

Farmed it for some time again and finally managed to drop Ancient's Seal - Black Piece. It does increase the estimated income, but so far it seems like an extremely unreliable drop, I'll have to dedicate more time in farming this area, before making any conclusions though.

Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep)


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Official RequirementLvlAPDP
Minimum61250290
Recommended62270310


Trash loot drop:
  • 1-3 Undersea Ancient Weapon Power Stone (18,000 - 54,000 Silver). No need to exchange, can be sold to shop. Mobs don't drop the actual silver itself.
  • 1-3 Mossy Plate Ancient Ruins Fragment (10,000 - 30,000 Silver). No need to exchange, can be sold to shop. Mobs don't drop the actual silver itself.

Droptable is almost the same as in Shikuraia Undersea Ruins, excluding Pieces of Deep Sea (items required to enter Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep)) and the different trash item. +Traveler's Map on top of that, to counter Pieces of Deep Sea and you can drop both Black & Red Ancient's Seal Pieces.

Since it requires Memories of Deep Sea (5xPiece of Deep Sea) to enter, and I have yet to drop even a single one - it might take me some time to report on this one, but I expect it to be as terrible for me as Histria =D I'll just walk there, record it and kill a few mobs for the video, so don't expect any useful reports on EXP/Silver/droprate and whatnot =D , hopefully I won't lose any crystals there =D .

Just as I initially expected^ - this location is way too hard for me. I strongly recommend to not bother entering this location if you're not a Tier 1 player or your main is not a ranged class. It feels like I would need 350+DP to farm there without constant HP potion drinking on cooldown...
Gaipilashya doesn't stand even close to it, I could relatively easily farm a few mobs there more than a year ago, and from that time I have lvled up, imrpoved my equipment and even did a fullbuff before entering Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep). I thought that I would be able to kill at least a dozen of mobs to check the amount of trash loot drop but they're just too OP for me, it would require a lot of HP potions and damage reduction elixirs on top of that, or alternatively a very small latency to be able to avoid all of the attacks, as they strike just as fast as the ones in the upper layer.
Since everyone who wanted and had time to check out this location did it - the shortage of Pieces of Deep Sea on the marketplace is long time gone and I expect its price to drop to the lowest possible price in the nearest future, as the amount of players able and willing to enter and farm Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep) is very small, to say the least, and you can't do anything else with it.
For a proper comparison of Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep) you will need to find someone who farms Histria =D

It is possible to swim between spots, but that is a stupid idea, as there are a few Pirashu near the "barrier doors", and they will be willing to bite you while you swim =D

Additionally you can gather few underwater resources here, while being not underwater, like corals, but there aren't many of those.


Additional info

Light's Flask:
  • Monster extra damage +20
  • All Accuracy +12
  • Max Stamina +200
  • Recover 3 HP per Successful strike
  • All DP -15
  • Critical Strike Damage +10%
  • Weight limit +100LT
  • Duration: 15 min
  • Cooldown: 10 sec


Just an update after some time has passed and there were quite a few changes to the above areas^:
  • Droprate of Ancient's Seal - Red Piece in Protty Cavern was nerfed and now Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep) is the main source of them, essentially making it rarer than Black Piece.
  • EXP from mobs in Shikuraia Undersea Ruins was increased by 80% making it a nice EXP-farming spot.
  • Droprate of Tungrad Ring in Shikuraia Undersea Ruins was increased.
  • Creva & Broken Creva mobs were boosted, to make them feel stronger and they had their control chance increased.



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Re: Exploring Protty Cavern/Shikuraia Undersea Ruins/Shikuraia Undersea Ruins (Deep)

Postby zhre » Fri 2018.11.09, 14:35

How strong is that crab-looking monster in Undersea Ruins?

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Postby KAMIKADzE » Fri 2018.11.09, 15:25

zhre wrote:How strong is that crab-looking monster in Undersea Ruins?

That thing is called Broken Creva (in JP, unfortunately no idea how it's called in KR, but considering the name it might actually be a Broken Crab). On the video it might look like a tough mob, but it is not. It survives longer than the other mobs there, but he's quite slow and don't poses the highest amount of threat there. I can easily take 2 of those (it's not possible to aggro more than 2 at once) + other mobs on myself when I have UI =D Those videos are called "exploring" for a reason - I record them at my first time going there, so this means that:
  • I don't own an S rank knowledge on all mobs, making them look like a more of a threat than they are.
  • I'm recording mobs that I'm not used to without UI:
    • I can't see how much HP I have.
    • I can't see how much HP mobs have.
    • I can't see my cooldowns.
    those 3 factors make me play a bit safer without facerolling or using highest-dmg-combos.
There's also the factor of my ping, which is hard to see without UI, but if you'll look closely you can notice me micro-stunning some mobs, which is basically a desync issue causing mobs to return to their default stance and restores their HP =D making it look like they survive a lot longer than they actually should. I try to route my traffic through the best possible rout, but...that's a long story.

What is actually the most threatening there - a groups of Broken Pirashu (those small fish type ancient weapons). When they start spinning in the air - simply move aside, as they'll deal a significant amount of damage if they're rolling in groups. I think it still shouldn't one-shot you if you'll be with recommended DP, so if you're into potion-drinking then you probably can easily faceroll everything there with those stats.



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Postby Preorder » Sat 2018.11.10, 14:38

Can you tell me the preorder prices for Tungrad Ring, Red Piece, Black Piece.

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Postby KAMIKADzE » Sat 2018.11.10, 15:11

Preorder wrote:Can you tell me the preorder prices for Tungrad Ring, Red Piece, Black Piece.

Tungrad Ring around its selling price (125kk).
Ancient's Seal - Red Piece -> 58kk.
Ancient's Seal - Black Piece -> 71kk.




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